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Northern Poker Stars @ Dalton C.C. £50 F/O, Sun 13/2/2011

New postby VBlue » Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:47 pm

I am delighted to be able to announce that on Sunday 13th February, 2011 we will be delivering our brand of live freezeout tournament to the players of Furness and the wider area

Venue: Dalton Cricket Club
Date: Sunday 13th February, 2011
Start Time: 2pm prompt
Registration Opens: 1:15pm


Ticket Purchase

Please send your full name, number of tickets required, names of other players you are purchasing tickets for and an email address to me by Private Message on Facebook, or on this forum, or email me at vblue@sky.com, or text me on 07595 908422.

Option 1) Paypal payment to vblue@sky.com for £57.00 x no of tickets required (I will send you an e-ticket(s) as proof of purchase)
Option 2) I will be attending the Dalton Weds night game on 19th January to sell tickets in person for cash.
Option 3) I will be announcing a local ticket reseller in the next few days.

Please call me on 07595 908422 with any queries.


Format: £50 + £7 10K Deepstack Freezeout

Blind Schedule

Levels 1-3 (30 mins) - 25/50, 50/100, 100/200
----15 minute break----
Levels 4-9 (25 mins) - 200/400, 300/600, 400/800, 500/1k, 600/1,200----10 min break----800/1,600/a100
Levels 10-20 (20 mins) - 1k/2k/a200, 2k/4k/a400, 3k/6k/a600, 4k/8k/a800, 5k/10k/a1k,----15 min break----6k/12k/a1k, 8k/16k,a1.5k, 10k/20k/a2k, 15k/30k/a3k, 20k/40k/a4k, 30k/60k/a6k

Total Estimated Playing Time (60 Players) including breaks = 8hr 20min
Estimated Finish Time = 10:30pm

Payout Structure

We use Full Tilt's 9-Handed Payout Structure - http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/tourPayout9Hand.php

A 60 seat sell-out event would pay a prize pool of £3,000 distributed as 1st £1,050, 2nd - £630, 3rd - £450, 4th - £330, 5th - £240, 6th - £180, 7th - £120.

Tournament Offering

- hand-made wooden poker tables with our Northern Poker Stars felt centre
- COPAG and KEM cards and NEXGEN chips used
- competent Tournament Director and Tournament Director 2 software projected to a large screen
- trained dealers at each table

Cash Tables

- 25p/50p cash table available to tournament players who have busted out
- hourly £1 rake per player only - no pot rake taken (proceeds donated to CFM Radio's Cash for Kids Appeal)
- further £1 per hour charge for a dealer dealt table (self-deal option available if preferred)
- 888 branded poker table and card and chip sets

Raffle

Up to and including July 2011 our monthly raffle will allow our players an opportunity to win a seat at our Main Event Individual Championship 2011 - a seat worth £200 + £20.

Each month we will draw our monthly raffle winner from all who have entered. £1 per strip. The monthly winner will gain one entry into our draw in July which will give one player a reduction on a seat at our Individual Championship - 4th weekend in July 2011 in Carlisle (tbc).

In the July draw, we will then place all our monthly winners into a hat-draw and that winner will be awarded £180 towards a £200 + £20 seat to our Individual Championship. So, the winner will have to put £40 towards the seat themselves - about 18% of the total seat entry price.

If you win the monthly raffle on more than one occasion you will receive multiple entries, equal to the number of monthly wins you have had, into the prize draw in July. Win twice and receive two entries, etc.

2011 - Live Poker in Furness

We will offer a monthly live tournament to the players of Furness throughout 2011. The £50 Deepstack Freezeout is our regular tournament structure. We will continue to book the second Sunday of every month, wherever possible, throughout the year.

Please support these events so that we can continue to offer these tournaments to Furness throughout 2011.

We welcome all feedback; you can use the Furness Poker Forum, or our Facebook Group Page 'Northern Poker Stars', or Facebook Group Page 'Furness Poker Players'.

I look forward to seeing you all in February.

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Re: Northern Poker Stars @ Dalton C.C. £50 F/O, Sun 30/1/201

New postby PaulRobinson » Wed Nov 17, 2010 3:26 am

Will get ticket off you next time I see you mate (Unless it is a random chance meeting lol)
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Re: Northern Poker Stars @ Dalton C.C. £50 F/O, Sun 30/1/201

New postby Honeymonster » Fri Dec 10, 2010 1:49 pm

[quote="VBlueCash Tables

- 25p/50p cash table available to tournament players who have busted out
- hourly £1 rake per player only - no pot rake taken
- 888 branded poker table and card and chip sets
- optional dealer available to each cash table

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So the cash game with dealer will be £2 per hour (£1 hourly rake ans £1 for the dealer)?
If this is the case then this sounds great, as you have the dealer to contol the table and the security of a unique set of chips.....count me in! ;-)
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Re: Northern Poker Stars @ Dalton C.C. £50 F/O, Sun 30/1/201

New postby VBlue » Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:14 pm

Honeymonster - you make a good point about the security of the branded chips.

Yes - if you want a dealer at your table then there will be a charge of £1 per player per hour. You can self-deal if the majority prefer at outset.

We only offer cash tables to players who have busted out of the tournament. We cannot accomodate players who wish to attend to play cash tables only.
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Re: Northern Poker Stars @ Dalton C.C. £50 F/O, Sun 30/1/201

New postby Tracy111 » Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:05 pm

Have Furness Poker got a team for Apat in Bolton... this is same weekend :?:
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Re: Northern Poker Stars @ Dalton C.C. £50 F/O, Sun 30/1/201

New postby VBlue » Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:42 pm

Tracy, thanks for the tip off. I have also had word from Robbo and Chris Salmon on this issue and I hope to be able to announce a reschedule later today or tomorrow for Sunday 5th February at 2pm.
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Re: Northern Poker Stars @ Dalton C.C. £50 F/O, Sun 13/2/201

New postby PsychoDave » Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:40 pm

PsychoDave wrote:Nice debate going on folks, Ok the rake is 7£ is food included ... Just thought id get that one in coz food and a dealer go hand in hand.. :lol:

I hope many do take part in this event as I with luck should have a live stream up and running and in any case should that fail I (Cumbrian Occasions) will be there catching all the action and having player interviews.. This Tournament is far better organized and more open than that bunch of crooks who took 3k from the first £50 poker tournament held at chequers or have you all forgotten about that one? This should be given a chance and not frowned upon.

Both sides have some great points in what they are saying but I do like the open honest replies coming from NPS, It wouldnt matter if the rake was £7 or 7p you will all ways get people who moan.



I was down the Masons today to test out some new lights and watch the wife play poker in the league game they hold. A discission took place whilst they were playing about the event thats causing some controversy. One of the players was at the game where Jono gave his speech about rake etc. Now this player and another at the table who confirmed what was said told us that the rake for the game is £7 but you dont stop paying rake there, now this is what I would like conformation on.. Is it true that after a certain length of time into the tournament all players left are to be penalized further by paying the dealer at the table another £1 an hour? Is it also true that the initial £7 rake for the event is going to be spent on new tables and chips for the tournament? This is what the players were tellinng me. So from what I gather The players in the Barrow, Dalton area are going to be paying for the gear that NPS will be using to make money at other events in other areas? Does this then meen that they are shareholders in NPS or will other tournaments that NPS run also be paying £7 rake if that is the case then your going to need a Bradys storage unit to keep all these used once chips and tables in.. do you get where I am coming from?

You do realize that taking rake in this way could be bordering on ilegal especially as no food or refreshments seem planned. From what the local players are saying I do not think many are going to be playing this unless a change in the rake happens. This would be a shame as a good game run correctly with dealers and descent blind structure is what the area needs. I am not knocking any of the local games as know that most of them are run by what time the pub or club shuts. People who attended the CDLT tournaments I ran in the early days can vouche that I did my damdest to cut costs and look after the players offering up prizes for all sorts of things during the games. The furness poker tour run by John Seal and crew did a splendid job last year and managed to get food laid on for no rake at all. I know you have a business to run Jono but I think been greedy could be NPS`s downfall in this area. You could have a one off rake payment and do a deal with the place its been run on a share of the beer profits. There are many other corridors to go down that can get your fee without penalizing the players...#

Have a little rethink if what the players are telling me Jono otherwise this will fail before its even started

I see this on your site so you wont be needing to buy new tables and chips for this event maybe what was said was wrong?

Live Poker Tournament.
£100 + £12 Super Stack Freezeout Event.
100 Seats Available.
3 / 04 / 2011
Haven Club, Hensingham, West Cumbria.
Contact Ken on 07860697204 or ken@northernpokerstars.co.uk
2pm Start.


For players who enjoy the thrill of Live Games, Northern Poker Stars host regular Multi-Table Tournaments. These events are held at The Haven Club, Hensingham, Whitehaven.

These tournaments are fun, friendly, professionally organised and run events that are designed to bring together poker players of all standards, from beginners to the more experienced.

The entry fee is £50 + £7 (£100 + £12 evry quater) per player and this makes up the prize pool. The grand total of the entry fees make up the prize pool. For example 50 players generates a £2500 prize pool, & 75 players generates a £3750 prize pool. We take £50 out of this total for the Player of the Year fund and the remaining prize pool is paid out to the top 10% of players on a sliding scale, with the winner picking up the largest share.


Tickets can be purchased from the venues, or from Northern Poker Stars.
Email: ken@northernpokerstars.co.uk (Main) or paul@northernpokerstars.co.uk (Carlisle)

Telephone: 07860697204 (Ken) or 07783480269 (Paul)

At these events you, the players, will sit down at casino standard tables. You will have in front of you excellent quality chips. You will be dealt the highest quality cards, by trained Dealers and will have in view at all times the current, and the next blind structures as well as the total payout to each placed finisher. A dedicated Tournament Director, will oversee the entire event. All of this enables you to concentrate on your game!

To enable me to provide you with the excellent staff, that supports me, I need the co-operation of the players. Most of my staff have commitments and need to know in advance if they are required to work at the tournaments. I base my staffing levels on the number of tickets sold or reserved 48 hours before an event is scheduled. Therefore any person that reserves a ticket and fails to turn up at the event is liable to pay the rake, unless I am given a minimum of 48 hours notice. If that person fails to pay the rake, I will remove that players benefit to reserve a seat or even refuse entry to all Northern Poker Stars events until the debt is settled. If a player has paid for a seat in advance and gives me 48 hours notice that he or she cannot attend, I will issue a full refund. Any player that has paid in advance and fails to show at the tournament will have their entry fee added to the prize pool.


I Have one other question.. What would it cost in rake for the locals to provide their own dealers?
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Re: Northern Poker Stars @ Dalton C.C. £50 F/O, Sun 13/2/201

New postby Reg » Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:06 pm

At last, someone agreeing with me that the rake charged for this tournament is insane!

I had my say in this thread about why I thought the rake charge + additional dealer fee's were way OTT, so I'm not going to go over old ground again but its nice that someone as well respected as Dave sharing similar views to my own. I hope that because someone like Dave has now criticised the rake structure, some changes may be made but if they aren't, I would be very surprised to see this tournament being well supported by local players.

If any of my friends were to ask me if I thought they should play in this event, i would have to tell them that I thought it was really bad value.
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Re: Northern Poker Stars @ Dalton C.C. £50 F/O, Sun 13/2/201

New postby moylesy » Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:26 am

hey guys, just thought id clear up a few things, and i hope Johno, V_Blue or any of the other NPS TDs dont mind me saying these things!

When NPS first started, not only was it a place to play poker, but also a way to contributed money to local Charities (mainly now CFM Cash For Kids) and as you can see from the homepage, have managed to raise £20970 since inception.

Before the new Gambling Laws came into effect a couple years back, X% of the prize pool was taken out and paid to a charity of the venues choosing (be it a sports club, hospital etc), business costs (petrol, tables, chips etc) and to pay for the dealers (roughly 4-8 hours at minimum wage, min. 4x dealers = you do the math!) this ended up being a sizeable chunk therefore less in the prize pool!

Once the Gambling Laws changed, the only way we could continue to do this is to carry on contributing to charities, otherwise NPS would have to get a casino license! (which if you look up, is extremely expensive)

For a while, things didnt change, then numbers started dwindling(people started saying too much was going from the prize pool), E.g = 40 player tourney @ £30+£30= £2400 - expenses (dealers, costs, charity contribution) and ur probably looking at a prize pool less than £2k (dont quote me on that, but thats realistically what i would have "taken out")

So Johno ASKED the players what they would do go help get the prize pool back up, and the PLAYERS decided that to pay the dealers £1 per player, per hour was reasonable.

The PLAYERS also suggested that a rake was also reasonable, therefore we all knew what we were playing for at all times, (baring in mind, the full £7 rake does not all go down as "business costs") Out of that £7, the charity gets some of it, and the rest goes to business costs. Now assume the split is 50/50 between charity and business costs (again this is just a presumption, i do not know any of NPS finances)if you have 20 players in the tournament, 20 x£7 +£140, £70 to charity and £70 to the business, this, in my opinion, isnt much! You could walk round Whitehaven, Carlisle, Barrow with a bucket and collect more in a day, and as for the business costs, after petrol/diesel, there isnt going to be alot left for chips, tables, cards and other equipment, is there???

Since the rake and new format was introduced, NPS has seen their numbers go from LESS than 20, to 60 players in one month (and he even had to turn players away)

Now the question i ask to the Furness crew is, would u rather go to the G, pay £50+£5, plus petrol, food, and gambling money (roullette, BlackJack slots etc), or pay £50 +£7, and play on your doorstep, knowing that ur doing ur bit for charity and play poker with ur friends?

i know there are alot of eager player in Furness, waiting for NPS to start up down that end, and as quoted above "it doesnt matter whether the rake is 7p or £7, someone will moan", of course that right, you cant please every one! But do i think its unreasonable? HELL NO!!!
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Re: Northern Poker Stars @ Dalton C.C. £50 F/O, Sun 13/2/201

New postby VBlue » Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:08 am

Cheers Moylesey.

Some inaccurate info, and I don't want to mislead anyone. But the sentiment is quite right.

We don't donate any of the rake to charity - our charitable contribution comes from the £1 per hour per player 'raked' from the cash tables. NPS do not make any money from providing cash tables for our players (hardly the actions of a business that is only concerned with ripping-off customers and conning the players of Furness, as has been suggested).

Yes - Johno and Paul (in Carlisle) continued to run monthly tournaments when the numbers were low last year, which obviously means making much less than a profitable amount on each tournament. This is down to the resilience of both and the ethos on which NPS is run. NPs were determined to find a way to continue to appeal to their players in a changing environment and under increasing competition from illegal nil rake games. All successful businesses must react and adapt to remain competitive and relevant (as those successful business people amongst you will know). All business face challenges throughout their lifetime. It is the attitude, professionalism, determination, business acumen, and integrity of the people behind those businesses that survive.

Yes - Johno did listen to the club's members and continue to shape the tournament fee structure to suit the players' demands and suggestions, whilst continuing to make enough money to continue to provide our brand of live tournament and make an income.
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Re: Northern Poker Stars @ Dalton C.C. £50 F/O, Sun 13/2/201

New postby CJStewart » Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:14 am

I've been keeping up with the debates on this and I think it's fair to say that both sides have good arguements but my personal opinion is that the rake is exceptionally high. It is great to see that NPS are working to make this a success in Furness as there are too few games of this size in the area and it's quite clear from the reviews by Carlisle players that a good service is offered. Have any Furness players played any NPS events?

My personal preference for would be to reduce the rake paid by players and for a deal to be done with the pub/club to put up some initial cash (a clause could be put in that club money is refunded if less than say 15 players turn up). I also believe that with the tournament being 2pm start that food should be available whether it is a free buffet or sandwiches to buy.

It is mentioned above that it is a deepstack freezeout but I could not see a starting stack (I may have just missed it) and looking at the blind structure I found it quite concerning the there are huge jumps from level 3 - 4 (100/200 to 200/400) and levels 10-11 (1k/2k/a200 to 2k/4k/a400) at which point the level length also drops to 20 mins and the blind increases thereafter are still substantial. I can't help but feel that this could be greatly improved upon as it seems a deepstack turns to a crapshoot to rush the tournament to finish. Aspers Newcastle used a similar structure for their £75 game and numbers dwindled quickly because of the poor structure and the tournament was eventually scrapped. I'm concerned that Furness players would feel the same way. I don't understand the logic in aiming to finish at 10:30.


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Re: Northern Poker Stars @ Dalton C.C. £50 F/O, Sun 13/2/201

New postby VBlue » Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:14 pm

Hi Calum, and welcome to the debate. Thanks for taking an interest.

I have already discussed the rake at a very lengthy length, so I have nothing more to add there. It is all in the posts already on here.

I have already discussed the problems with asking a venue, to which we pay no room hire fee, to then contribute to our costs, etc. It is all in the posts already on here.

The purpose of aiming to finish at 10:30pm (which, with expected delays in starting late - as often can be the case due to large numbers of players arriving at 2pm, rather than being sat down ready to play at this time) and the odd over-extended break means more likely an 11pm finish or possibly slightly later. I then have to pack away the tables, chips, screen, etc. The venue are not keen to remain open to the small hours and I have to fit in with them too. I will alert Ken to your concerns about the leap in blinds at the levels you have highlighted and come back with his response.

We have worked on our structure constantly over the years with our changing formats. Our deepstack is 10k starting stack. I have added to the OP above.

We do not want a crapshoot - but we must also finished at a 'reasonable' time. Not every player is keen to stay until 2am say as they have work commitments, some as early as 6am starts.

I always suggest that venues make food available for purchase.

I hope to see you at our opening event.
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Re: Northern Poker Stars @ Dalton C.C. £50 F/O, Sun 13/2/201

New postby CJStewart » Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:42 pm

Hi VBlue, Thanks for the reply. With it being a Sunday I suppose the earlier finish does make sense but is an earlier start for Sunday games something you have considered? Do tournaments run in Carlisle and West Cumbria on Saturdays have later expected finish times?

I'm in Newcastle at the time of the first event but I have been considering venturing over to Carlisle to see what the events are like as £50+ games in Newcastle are rare and don't have great turnouts and I'm hoping there'll be another Furness event when I'm back in the area.

If my memory is right there was a £200 NPS event over the summer sometime. Is there likely to be another game with this kind of buy in any time soon?
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Re: Northern Poker Stars @ Dalton C.C. £50 F/O, Sun 13/2/201

New postby VBlue » Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:00 pm

Calum, we run all our games on Sundays. Traditionally, the start time had been to allow shift workers on the West Coast to attend the game (3pm). We decided to move this back one hour to accomodate more play.

I don't know if we have ever looked at Saturdays instead or even earlier start times. I'll ask Ken.

If you are in Newcastle - don't forget about Carlisle (bit less travel time for you). Of course, you are welcome at any venue any time.

This years Individual Championship is the last Sunday in July in Carlisle £200 + £20. Last year we had a prize pool of about £10,000 with the winner taking just over £3,000. Some initial details are on this forum and on our facebook page.

We have run some online satellites to this event and may offer some live satellites at our monthly events around the County (probably a £30 x 10 man STT, with all cash paid out - no rake). Again, not the actions of a company out to rip-off or con the players of Dalton, but the actions of a poker club who want to give the best of poker in the County to its members.

Hope to see you at an NPS event soon.
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Re: Northern Poker Stars @ Dalton C.C. £50 F/O, Sun 13/2/201

New postby NPStars » Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:19 pm

Calum,

Thanks for the interest. The blind structure is not set down in a tablet of stone. We have moved to a structure where there are more chips in play and it is a case of tweaking the blinds to find the happy medium. At our first event under this format in Whitehaven, we were still going at 00:30 hrs, which is far too late. We were being pressurised by the venue to come to a conclusion. This structure was 30 minute blinds throughout with the same levels as you have seen with the one exception. We had a 1500 / 3000 level. Because the tournament had gone on for so long, I decided to test the structure that you have viewed at my first tournament of 2011 at Carlisle. I agree that this structure was a little too severe, but we had less runners at Carlisle than we did at Whitehaven, and hence less chips in play. I am going to use the structure that you have seen at Whitehaven on Sunday 6th February and this will give me a true gauge of it's worth, as I expect similar numbers if not a slight increase to that of the January event. If it works well then we will keep it. If it is too severe then I will have to tweak it again. The venue's that I currently have are telling me that the events must be complete by midnight. The only other alternative that I have is to payout at midnight pro-rata to the remaining payers based on a chip count.

We avoid Saturday's for our events because there are lots of poker players that play sport on a Saturday and this would seriously decrease our numbers.

Thanks

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Re: Northern Poker Stars @ Dalton C.C. £50 F/O, Sun 13/2/201

New postby Wolfy » Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:21 pm

Mark/Ken

My apologies for not posting sooner I have been working away on business and not had a chance to reply, however I have keep up an eye on the posts on the forum.
This will be my last post on the subject as I feel that we are all spending far too much time on it.
Firstly let me point out that I have no personal grievances with either yourself Mark or Ken who I have not met and I do not think that you are a conman and I apologise if my opinion that the fees charged are “a rip off” have made you think that It was not my intention.
Secondly, I think you have the opinion that I am against you hosting a regular game in the area, once again this is not the case, far from it, however I do feel that the percentage rake should provide true value for money and I do not feel that this is the case.
Lastly, you feel that I am the voice of the minority, however if you spent the time to listen to and take onboard the concerns raised rather than just trying to defend them you would actually find that I am voicing the opinion of the majority in the area.

I have already offered to sit down with you Mark free of charge and run through the concerns, highlighting the reasons for them, together with constructive suggestions that would in my opinion provide a workable solution to enable you to run successful and well attended events in the area. I am still prepared to do this and Ken is welcome to attend if he feels that it will be of benefit.

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Re: Northern Poker Stars @ Dalton C.C. £50 F/O, Sun 13/2/201

New postby VBlue » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:14 am

As you rightly said Wolfy - we are all spending far too much time on it and I think I have given enough time and information to the players now for them to consider why we do things the way we do, charge what we charge, and offer what we offer.

Of course, I only said the minority as in total it has been about only a few players on here giving the feedback out of about 20 that have told me they are buying a ticket. The rest - I am in the dark and at a disadvantage as I do not live or work in the area and therefore rely mainly on Facebook and forum feedback.

No hard feelings between us. I did have one player who started to become quite abusive but that matter is now closed.
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Re: Northern Poker Stars @ Dalton C.C. £50 F/O, Sun 13/2/201

New postby PsychoDave » Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:28 am

I am of the same mind as wolfy on this subject, Ive followed it closly and listend to the many who are asking and telling me their thoughts about this tournament. On the whole the only thing that will stop players turning up to this event to play is the rake. I have not had anything said about anything else other than the rake. People will probabaly turn up and rail just to see how the event is run and what you (NPS) are offering thats so spectacular that it costs so much. It will be interesting to see how it turns out.
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Re: Northern Poker Stars @ Dalton C.C. £50 F/O, Sun 13/2/201

New postby NPStars » Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:50 am

Just to put an end to all of this because it is becoming tedious. I have now decided that there will be no NPS events in Dalton. I will continue to host my events in Carlisle and Whitehaven only. I can only apologise to those that wanted the NPS events, but I am not listening to any further negative comments about my business and I am certainly not allowing my Tournament Director to be subjected to foul and abusive messages on public networking sites.
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Re: Northern Poker Stars @ Dalton C.C. £50 F/O, Sun 13/2/201

New postby migfighter » Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:49 pm

purely as a neutral in this debate as i dont play live local events i can see both sides of this argument.to me it looks like the area is being offered something of a quality that isnt already here,otherwise it would already be up and running and there would be no need for nps to enter the area.dalton cc offers a comfortable room seperate from the rest of the bar area and so the whole day could have been a good and new experiance of a quality tournemament run, albeit at a little extra cost, on our own doorstep.personaly i look at this as with many other events put on in this far out cul de sac that is furness (not just poker by the way)and seem to always come to the same conclusion.that we all want the "wembley"experiance but dont want to pay a little extra for "it" to come to us,whereas we must all have paid that little extra to get that "buzz"hundreds of miles away at some time.again, as with many times before for this area, this guy now pulls the plug on what may have been a worthwile(profitable even for some)event.maybe the time has come for furness to actually move on into the twentieth century.(and no i do know my centuries!!!!!!)
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Re: Northern Poker Stars @ Dalton C.C. £50 F/O, Sun 13/2/201

New postby mj1576 » Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:01 pm

was looking forward to this event now its been cancelled well done haters congrats :oops:
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Re: Northern Poker Stars @ Dalton C.C. £50 F/O, Sun 13/2/201

New postby sexybabe3200 » Sat Jan 29, 2011 7:52 pm

i think there some good points was talking to few poeple who said you could go to blackpool and play for more money and pay same amount as they would paying here for your tournaments, but i also agree with you guys when paul used to run barrow poker, dealers worked really well and looked very neat and tidy so i see both sides of the arguement just sorry to see it cancelled not only for you, but for the players who wanted the game to happen was looking forward to meeting everyone getting my hand it and dealing again not just for the cash but loved going poker nights, good poeple good atmosphere and most of all seeing the bad beats lol
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