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Northern Poker Stars at Vickers Town C.C, Walney

New postby VBlue » Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:54 pm

I have spoken with Mike McGuire at Vickers Town C.C. and would like to thank David Crawford for his support and assistance.

Vickers Town would like Northern Poker Stars to bring our live poker tournaments to their venue in 2010.

The feedback I have received from Furness Poker Forum players at The Bridge, Dalton has been very encouraging and has suggested that players in Furness will support our games.

My initial question to you all is, with Jon Seal currently running the popular Tour of Furness games, would we be better waiting until these have finished and starting up then or do you feel that the Furness area can support another monthly game now?

We would be looking to run a 30/30 Double Chance Tournament with the rebuy/add-on optional - initially every 4-6 weeks. We would be looking for 50+ players to make this a success.

To see further details of our tournament offering see my other post - link http://www.furnesspoker.co.uk/phpBB3/vi ... =89&t=2205

or our website - link http://www.furnesspoker.co.uk/phpBB3/vi ... =89&t=2205


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Re: Northern Poker Stars at Vickers Town C.C, Walney, Furness

New postby PaulRobinson » Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:53 am

My personal thoughts are that you should go ahead with it and work it round the Tour of Furness games, god knows we need some bigger tournaments for those that dont want to do the 2 hour trip to our nearest G.Casino. So please consult with Mr Seal and lets get these games going. One more suggestion if I may, and that is why not give the top 3 players a seat at a Tour of Furness event ;) that way you are supporting the local poker scene to its upmost
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Re: Northern Poker Stars at Vickers Town C.C, Walney, Furness

New postby Devilperch » Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:06 am

I agree that we could probably accomodate another monthly game providing we discount the dates of the tour first. The only other concerns I have is:
The 'Double Chance' format. I think we would get a better response if we had a straight 50 Freezeout with possible 10 headhunter.
The venue is Walney! - Travel and taxis is not cheap and may put a few off?
Days - This would have to be a Friday/Saturday night or a Sunday afternoon.
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Re: Northern Poker Stars at Vickers Town C.C, Walney, Furness

New postby Well Oiled » Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:37 pm

I agree Chris that a 50-75 freezout would be a more popular game then a 30 rebuy. I think Walney would be a fine venue (i'm not just saying that because i live there!). It would be fine because like Paul Robbo said, people are prepared to travel all the way to blackpool and newcastle ect, so a game on Walney is near enough. Barrow is better yes, but Walney wouldn't put players of for occasions like this.

I like the idea of supporting the furness poker tour aswell, maybe take 2/3 seats for the 60 final out of the prizepool, as long as too much money isn't taken out coz i want it all for myself MUHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
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Re: Northern Poker Stars at Vickers Town C.C, Walney, Furness

New postby VBlue » Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:38 pm

Thanks for your feedback to date fellows.

Venue


If people express that this venue will cause us to alienate a decent proportion of players then I am certainly not married to them, but I would need suggestions of an alternative venue.

I am 99% sure that Dalton C.C. could be one such venue, but would this again cause inconvenience for players in Barrow?

Prize Pools / Buy-Ins

What are your concerns with the buy-in Chris? Is it that the total prizepool generated would not be large enough?

Don't forget also, that Northern Poker Stars are a profit making business and that we have to make an income from these events. The Double Chance format means 30 entry goes into the prizepool, and the 30 rebuys/add-ons come to NPS - although we do then return a substantial amount from this back into the prizepool.

The 30 entry makes these regular events accessible to wider range of players. We can run higher buy-in events for those who have the bankroll (see further down in this reply).

We have had a tournament winner pick up over 1k prize money with 75 players.

Long-Term Future in Furness

If we are to have a long-term future in Furness we will need to be self-sufficient at some point and the only way to do this is to generate enough income from the events to purchase poker tables, chips, cards, projector, laptop, etc.

Initially, we will bring equipment in from another venue, which will incur transportation costs.

In Carlisle, to service 100 player events this will cost several thousand pounds. That is money we need to generate to cover costs before we make a single penny from the event ourselves. There is both a Tournament Director to pay and NPS need to make a profit.

This will mean that in the first year or so we will take more money from the rebuys/add-ons to cover our costs, but further down the line we will take considerably less.

Providing Value for our Players

Our focus is always on providing the best value for our players and we are certainly not here to rip-off players, or to make a quick buck and ride out of Dodge. In fact, if you broke down the hourly rate we make a less than modest income over our yearly activities.

We will always give as much back to the players as we can. For example, in Carlisle, we ran the NPS Team Championship - were NPS took nil rake from the tournament, with all buy-ins, rebuys/add-ons being paid out to the players on the day. We also got our sponsors at 888poker and The Ukranian Club in Carlisle to contribute to a fabulous silver cup worth 1k and 888poker threw in some online account money for players who finished in a position with an 8 in it.

As a further gesture to give back to those players who support our events, we have promised to do another nil rake event. These events will be invitation only, for loyal supporters of Northern Poker Stars events.

Competing with 'Nil Rake' Events

We are aware that we will have competition, in one form or another, including pub poker games and other poker in your area.

Where some of these games may pay out all/nearly all of the buy-in money to the players and take no rake, they will not be able to compete with us in terms of our overall offering.

Please also remember that the casinos offer such a low-rake at their tournaments as they subsidise this, as a loss making event, by taking your money over the bar and at the blackjack and roulette tables. The NPS house will not be exploiting our players by trying to take their winnings off them before they leave the building.

If the Double Chance tournaments prove popular, and these are the bread and butter in terms of income for NPS, then we will be happy to bring a wider range of tournaments to the area, where our rake is much more modest.

These will include the GUKPT/UKIPT qualifiers, Leaving for Las Vegas Tournament Series, and 100 deepstack events.

It is also vitally important that we run our games in accordance with Gambling Commission guidelines and at an appropriately licensed venue.

Please continue to work with me during this period so that I can ensure that we get our offering absolutely right for the players of Furness.

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Re: Northern Poker Stars at Vickers Town C.C, Walney, Furness

New postby VBlue » Wed May 05, 2010 2:43 pm

After discussing this internally, we have come to a decision on bringing this event to the players of Furness.

We will be aiming to launch our first event in late August/September. We are unable to bring an event to you any sooner due to other commitments that the club has, and the annual pilgrimage to the Mecca of Poker, Las Vegas (see how you can win a trip out there with the NPS team next year through the Leaving for Las Vegas series we will be running from Autumn 2010).

I will continue to keep you all updated.

It is a shame that I have not had more feedback from you, the players. This is your opportunity to contribute to the shape of the offering that we bring to you later this year.

Please do not wait until we launch our first event to start with suggestions of different formats, buy-ins, etc. Tell me what your thoughts and opinions are now.

See this post for details of our current tournament offering and click on the NPS banner to go to our website for further details http://www.furnesspoker.co.uk/phpBB3/vi ... =89&t=2205.

Also, we are now approaching our Individual Championship 2010 - full details here http://www.furnesspoker.co.uk/phpBB3/vi ... =89&t=2257

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