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New postby PaulRobinson » Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:14 am

Game #3701885543: Hold'em NL ($0.50/$1) - 2007/04/04 - 00:55:48 (UK)
Table "Steelers" Seat 1 is the button.
Seat 1: Bongazz ($82.50 in chips)
Seat 2: paulrobo ($223.99 in chips)
Seat 3: thesparw ($130.75 in chips)
Seat 4: comboli ($80 in chips)
Seat 5: rockstar ($78.25 in chips)
Seat 6: BamMico22 ($98 in chips)
paulrobo: posts small blind $0.50
thesparw: posts big blind $1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to paulrobo [As Qs]
comboli: folds
rockstar: raises to $3
BamMico22: calls $3
Bongazz: folds
paulrobo: raises to $6
thesparw: folds
rockstar: calls $3
BamMico22: calls $3
----- FLOP ----- [9s 5s 2s]
paulrobo: bets $3
rockstar: raises to $12
BamMico22: folds
paulrobo: raises to $24
rockstar: folds
Returned uncalled bets $12 to paulrobo
paulrobo: doesn't show hand
paulrobo collected $41 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot $43 Main pot $41 Rake $2
Board [9s 5s 2s]
Seat 1: Bongazz (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: paulrobo (small blind) collected $41
Seat 3: thesparw (big blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: comboli folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: rockstar folded on the Flop
Seat 6: BamMico22 folded on the Flop
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New postby Treeny » Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:04 am

If you're going to 3-bet preflop make it bigger. It should be 3x the original raise + 1x for every caller. So in this case you should have raised $12. Calling here is not terrible, you are OOP.

Bet more on the flop. Should be around 3/4 pot. Bet this when you hit and when you miss the flop. It's hard to extract on these kind of flops, especially as you have the As. You're only hope is that someone has an overpair, set or Ks.

No need to raise on the flop. Let him hang himself when he follows through on the turn.
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New postby robbiebox » Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:44 am

Agree with Treeny about pre-flop play: don't like the min raise it is declaring your hand to a certain extent . If you flat call your hand is hidden and if you raise to $12+ then your getting paid.

Quite like the small bet: it builds the pot for if he hits on the turn or river and it also gives him the chance to come over more aggressively with top pair and good kicker or better. It can also maybe induce a bluff as was probably the case in this hand.

Also as Treeny mentions re-re-raising on the flop is declaring your hand again and if you had just called he almost defo would have had another stab at this on the turn or called a river value bet from you. Unless he was on a totasl bluff, in which case you were not going to get paid anyway.
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New postby Snapper » Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:29 pm

Have to agree, not sure what you are trying to achieve by min raising to $6 pre-flop, your certainly not going to get anyone to fold because your pricing them in and also you are unaware of exactly where you are at in the hand. Flat call would suffice or reraise to $9 just to find out how strong your opposition is.

After the flop i would check call any bets, because betting $3 into a pot of $19 looks way to fishy to me, however noting the reraise i would of flat called, there is no advantage of reraising here, unless he's got an overpair or a set he will struggle to call this.

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Re: Analyse please

New postby PaulRobinson » Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:14 am

Thanks for the advice guys - much noted
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Re: Analyse please

New postby Reg » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:54 pm

Ignoring pre-flop, as thats been covered already, I would have bet around half pot on the flop to induce bluff raises or to build the pot to make it easier to get the money in on later streets. As played, I flat his raise and then check/raise all in on the turn, as he won't be able to help himself turning his hand into a bluff after you have shown weakness by just calling his flop raise and then checking the turn. If he doesn't bet the turn, I shove the river and hope to get looked up by a random pair that thinks you have missed spades.
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